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Email Hates the Living

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3 HN users recommended this talk3 months2015–2022 score 3.5
Years with an HN recommendation, 2007–2026

HN points to it whenever someone underestimates how hard email parsing, validation or building a mail client really is.

A lightning-style conference talk by Ricardo Signes about the horrors of email: its protocols, formats and decades of accumulated quirks. It is delivered with a humorous horror theme to show why handling email correctly is harder than it looks.

“If you want to read about the insanity behind some of the protocols watch that talk.” (HN, 2022)

1 strong recommendations · 2 recommendations · Talks · intermediate

3 Hacker News comments

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@calvinmorrison Aug 2022 Recommends
on HN thread Email doesn't suck – it's email clients that need improving
Here's a talk from one of the heads of Fastmail: "Email Hates the Living" [this video] Email itself is a very weird quirk filled system. If you want to read about the insanity behind some of the protocols watch that talk. That's why things like JMAP are being developed.
Tour of the insane quirks of email protocols.

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