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Cities Aren't Loud: Cars Are Loud

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HN cites it constantly in threads on noise, EVs and car-free cities as the source that cars, not cities, are loud.

Not Just Bikes argues that urban noise comes mostly from motor vehicles, drawing on the book Curbing Traffic and a visit to Delft, a city that takes noise seriously.

“Fantastic video with that very name exploring just how true this is” (HN, 2022)

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@CalRobert Dec 2021 Recommends
on HN thread The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.
NotJustBikes does a great video on this [this video] Cities aren't Loud, Cars are Loud. Most "cities" in North America, to use the term generously, are miserable car sewers where you need to shout to have a conversation outside.
Explains that cars, not cities, cause urban noise
@seer Apr 2022 Recommends
on HN thread Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)
I think you'll be very interested in the "Not Just Bikes" channel as he talks a lot about urban planing. There's a lot of political will and momentum for making living spaces ... livable in Europe. Places like The Netherlands and Denmark in particular. A video specifically about noise pollution and how European cities are trying to solve it - [this video]
How European cities tackle noise pollution
@cardanome Jul 2022 Recommends
on HN thread ESG should be boiled down to one simple measure: emissions
I don't get why I am getting such emotional responses. Most of the noise in cities comes from cars, that is a fact. Even dense cities can be fairly quiet. I suggest watching this video: [this video] Plus China has probably not the best building codes, the problem can be further improved by having proper sound isolation in homes. Dense cities mean you will have everything in walking distance. There will be much more space for parks and other areas of recreation.
Shows dense cities can be quiet; cars cause the noise
@ThatGeoGuy Apr 2023 Recommends
on HN thread Harvard: The Effects of Noise on Health
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An addendum to the posted article: [this video] Cities aren't loud; motor vehicles are. Tire noise near heavy stroads and highways are in particular egregious offenders. There's a lot of other points in the comments about some other urban nuisances (leaf blowers, anyone?) but I encourage anyone to walk around (yes, walk) while measuring the ambient noise levels with your smartphone's microphone. It will be extremely obvious where the noise is coming from. This is an often misunderstood part of "the war on cars:" the stress gained from additional constant noise (e.g. like a highway) takes YEARS off our lives. And don't get me started on how loud shops are in North America. For whatever reason they seem to always keep the volume three or four levels above comfortable, making it much harder to have a conversation without shouting at least a little. It wasn't until I started traveling a lot that I started to notice any of this. You can have your quiet part of town, but often you get to your quiet part of town by driving through the noisiest part of town where a good number of people live and work.
Addendum on motor vehicles as main urban noise source

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@Fradow May 2022 Cites it
on HN thread New York rolling out noise law, listening tech for souped-up speedsters
I can confirm first-hand that it's the main noise pollution source there. As I stated in a sibling thread, 3 of the 4 sources I cited come from motorized vehicles: mopeds, general ICE noise, honking (in that order). This is better explained by NotJustBikes video "Cities aren't loud: cars are loud": [this video]
Explains vehicles as main city noise source
@screye Jun 2022 Cites it
on HN thread Dreaded commute to the city is keeping offices mostly empty
> lot less noise. Cities Aren't Loud: Cars Are Loud [1] Having lived in many different types of cities, it is always the car-centric downtowns and suburban main-streets that are loudest. Well designed & walkable cities are actually pretty mild when it comes to noise. [1] [this video]
Cited as source that cars cause city noise
@nknezek Aug 2022 Cites it
on HN thread Too many Americans live in places built for cars – not for human connection
Most of the noise in cities does come from cars. You're right that cities will never be <35 dBA, but most rural areas are not usually that quiet either. For example, even slight wind will cause ambient noise in wilderness to 40-60 dBA. Cities without cars can easily average <55 dBA. See this video [1] or this research [2] for sources. [1] [this video] [2] [link]
Source for dBA levels in car-free cities
@dijit Nov 2023 Cites it
on HN thread Spain lives in flats: why we have built our cities vertically
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Cities aren't loud. Cars are loud.[0] I live in Malmö on the southern edge of Sweden opposite Copenhagen, it's quieter here (pop: 350,000~) than my friends home village in Northamptonshire (Thrapston; pop: 6,239 as of 2011). This was largely because of the sheer volume of cars on the road, because you essentially have to drive to get anywhere. London is similar, despite not everyone needing a car there is traffic everywhere , you can notice that there's back streets and they tend to be very quiet until there are lots and lots of people, think >200 in a 100sqm area. Having the ability to escape noise is the most important part of noise management. Cities like London have almost no respite from the noise and thus it can be physically draining for many people to experience it. Including myself. [0]: [this video]
Cited for title claim supporting personal anecdote
@Mawr Mar 2025 Cites it
on HN thread Congestion Pricing Is a Policy Miracle
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> So make cars pollute less Physically impossible to have them pollute less than methods of mass transportation. Mathematically, even. Just divide the number of people carried per pollution caused by cars vs trains, bikes, or even buses. There's nothing you can do to make cars competitive. > Figure out how to filter microplastics from our food and water "Just figure it out", ok. But even then, an ounce of prevention is worth the pound of a cure. > Figure out what's causing asthma in children A little random but ok. I'm guessing grinding up rubber and metal particles into the air right next to where said children live isn't the best for their lungs. > Not sure how obesity is related. Maybe improve the food supply? 1. Wake up 2. Walk 30 feet to your car 3. Sit as you drive to work 4. Spend 8 hours at your desk 5. Walk 30 feet to your car 6. Sleep 7. Why am I fat?! Maybe improve the food supply?! > A lot of these are solved with electric cars which are increasingly more competitive. Virtually none are, an electric car is still a car, see point 1. > Why force people to regress towards a worse product rather than address these technical issues? Highly dependent on your definition of worse; I'd argue the sort of streets and environments you can find in the Netherlands [1][2][3] are way better than in the US. Not everything is a technical issue that can simply be solved by better engineering. [1]: [this video] [2]: [link] [3]: [link]
Example of Dutch streets and environments

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