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DEF CON 17 - Deviant Ollam - Packing and the Friendly Skies

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HN cites it as a famous talk on luggage security whenever TSA keys or baggage theft come up.

Deviant Ollam's DEF CON 17 talk explains how legally checking a firearm in luggage can be the most secure way to fly with valuable tech. It covers firearm transport rules and luggage locks.

“First heard about this at DEFCON at a great presentation titled: Packing and the Friendly Skies.” (HN, 2022)

1 recommendations · 5 citations · Talks · partly dated

6 Hacker News comments

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@bitxbitxbitcoin Feb 2022 Recommends
on HN thread 3D reproduction of TSA Master keys (2016)
First heard about this at DEFCON at a great presentation titled: Packing and the Friendly Skies. [0] He makes a great case for keeping your laptop with your gun as the only way to guarantee its physical security. [0] [this video]
Great presentation on securing luggage by packing a firearm.

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@746F7475 Sep 2015 Cites it
on HN thread 3D reproduction of TSA master keys
I was under the impression that airlines/TSA can't anyway mark your luggage even if it contains firearms. Some airlines give you a tag, but you are suppose to put that inside your luggage, but I might be wrong about this or my info might be very old. I'm basing most of my stuff on this video [this video]
Source for commenter's understanding of luggage tagging rules.
@korethr Apr 2016 Cites it
on HN thread Senate encryption bill draft mandates 'technical assistance'
Another option is to start flying with something that qualifies as a 'firearm' in your luggage. Such requires actual proper locks that only you can open. There was a talk on this at DEFCON 17 [this video] Obviously, this only works in the US. Other countries will have different laws on the ownership and transport of firearms.
DEFCON talk on using firearm rules to secure luggage.
@mulmen Jun 2020 Cites it
on HN thread Postbank to replace 12M bank cards after employees steal 'master key'
I don’t think you have to use a TSA lock on luggage with a firearm [1]. If it meets the legal definition of a “firearm” you trigger (get it?) the TSA rules that allow you to use a non-joke lock. Since this includes just the legal firearm you don’t even have to carry an actual gun to prevent the TSA from sniffing your undies. Deviant Ollam gave an (in)famous talk [2] about this at Defcon. [1]: [link] [2]: [this video]
Talk on firearm legal definition and locks in luggage.
@ilovecurl Apr 2023 Cites it
on HN thread Declassified: The CIA Canoe Commuters
> baggage getting lost One way to make the airlines care more about your luggage and make it highly unlikely for them to lose it is to check a firearm as described in Deviant Ollam's famous talk on the subject: [this video]
Famous talk on checking a firearm to protect luggage.

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