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Erlang Factory SF 2016 Keynote Phoenix and Elm – Making the Web Functional

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2 HN users recommended this talk in 3 different months between 2016 and 2022.

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Pointed to as the best source on Phoenix Presence internals and for combining Phoenix with Elm.

A joint Erlang Factory 2016 keynote by Phoenix creator Chris McCord and Elm creator Evan Czaplicki on using the two together, including Phoenix.Presence design and PubSub optimizations.

Pull quote: “My Erlang Factory keynote also goes into the design considerations and PubSub layer optimizations that sits underneath Phoenix.Presence” (HN, 2016)

Also tagged: phoenix and elm, phoenix, elm, elixir, crdt, presence, functional web

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Recommends rdtsc May 2016 under A Farewell to FRP
Talk on using Phoenix and Elm together.
There is a nice talk from Erlang Factory 2016 called "Making the Web Functional with Phoenix and Elm" [this video]
Recommends rdtsc November 2016 under Elm for the Front End, Right Now
Half Phoenix, half Elm intro with nice debugging and error messages.
Speaking of Elm I liked this video from Erlang Factory about using Phoenix and Elm together. They both have a functional flavors so I think it might appeal to same people: [this video] The first half is about Phoenix, the second about Elm. I don't know much about front-end stuff but I did like the Elm bit as an intro, especially the debugging and nice error messages part.

Citations, criticism and jokes

Cites it yelnatz March 2016 under Managing two million web servers
Explains Phoenix.Presence, CRDTs and heartbeats solving distributed presence.
The Phoenix Framework (web framework for Elixir) already solves this for you.[1] It's called Phoenix.Presence. They used a combination of CRDTs with heartbeats to implement it. You are right, it is a hard problem because of the distributed nature of Erlang/Elixir. That's why Chris provided a framework level solution for it. [1] [this video] (Erlang Factory SF 2016 Keynote Phoenix and Elm – Making the Web Functional)
Shared keynote by creators of Phoenix and Elm.
I wonder if the same might happen to Elm, should Phoenix adopt it as their browser language of choice. There's definitely a connection there -- for what it's worth, the keynote at 2016's Erlang Factory conference was a shared talk between Chris McCord (creator of Phoenix) and Evan Czaplicki (creator of Elm), "Making the Web Functional" [0] [0] [this video]

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