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The UK's Failed Experiment in Rail Privatization

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4 HN users recommended this explainer3 months2021–2024 score 3
Years with an HN recommendation, 2007–2026

Recommended in privatization and rail threads as a clear, well-sourced explanation of the UK rail mess.

Wendover Productions explains how UK rail privatization worked and why it failed. It covers the fragmented operator and infrastructure structure and why market forces apply poorly to rail.

“the people on the Wendover YouTube channel did a video on this back in March which explained the issue really well.” (HN, 2021)

4 recommendations · 2 citations · Explainers · partly dated

6 Hacker News comments

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@dharmab Mar 2021 Recommends
on HN thread UK to depart from GDPR
Here's a well-sourced rebuttal to your statement that privatization benefits revenues: [this video] TL;DW revenues and passenger numbers are demonstrably lower with privatization than when nationalized. Unlike other industries, the UK's franchise privatization model is not subjected to free market forces, allowing rail companies to win contracts by underbidding only to fail to meet their targets.
Shows privatized UK rail has lower revenue and passenger numbers
@apexalpha May 2021 Recommends
on HN thread UK Rail services to come under unified state control
I've found that these two YouTube video's do an okay job explaining the actual 'market forces' actually at play here: [link] [this video] It takes a bit of understanding why regular market forces kind of can't apply to a system like rail transport.
Explains why market forces don't apply to rail
@sweezyjeezy Jul 2023 Recommends
on HN thread Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain
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> I believe the best way to make this work is by keeping the network itself in public hands and then having a competition of contributors to the network Even then it doesn't always work out - UK rail services have that system - the infrastructure is maintained by a public body [1], but the operators are private. UK rail is quite expensive, and mediocre in quality compared to our EU counterparts. One of the issues is that it's basically impossible to have competition on a single rail journey joining two large cities - there's aren't enough tracks to support it without making it unprofitable for operators. So rail networks bid every few years on sections of the rail network, and then have no competition for their term. Again the incentives that make the free market efficient are just not there. A nice video that summarises this mess here: [2] [1] [link] [2] [this video]
Summarizes the mess of UK rail operators and infrastructure

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@heraldgeezer Aug 2024 Cites it
on HN thread More and more German trains are not allowed to enter Switzerland
It HAS NOT worked great for Sweden. Source: I live in Sweden there was a DN article recently about it. Here it is [link] Mirror: [link] (Its all too segmented, the trains, the track all different companies now nobody sees the full picture) and [link] Mirror: [link] (The land is not enough to fix trains and the land next to it was reserved but somehow sold to build a sports arena because the train land section became a company that had to post good numbers) I hear UK is not too happy about their rail too. [this video] Seems like it just does not work to separate rail and traffic like that.
UK also unhappy with rail privatization

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