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DEF CON 18 - Jason Scott - You're Stealing It Wrong! 30 Years of Inter-Pirate Battles

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2 HN users recommended this talk2 months2014–2025 score 2.5
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HN brings it up in threads on warez, cracktros and the demoscene as a funny, informative history of the piracy scene.

Jason Scott's DEF CON 18 talk tells the history of software piracy over thirty years, centered on the feuds and drama among rival warez groups. It is full of archival material and insider lingo.

“Related, and a personal favorite of mine” (HN, 2025)

1 strong recommendations · 1 recommendations · 2 citations · Talks

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@alnwlsn Mar 2025 Strongly recommends
on HN thread Copyright and the Demo Scene
Related, and a personal favorite of mine: DEF CON 18 - Jason Scott - You're Stealing It Wrong! 30 Years of Inter-Pirate Battles [this video]
Personal favorite talk on inter-pirate battles.
@patrickyeon Jun 2014 Recommends
on HN thread A texture-mapped raycaster in 128 bytes
As CountHackulus says, basically "drama". If it amuses you for some reason, you might want to check out "Jason Scott - You're Stealing It Wrong! 30 Years of Inter-Pirate Battles" from Defcon 18. [this video] The meat of the talk starts around 24min. edit: while re-watching, I should warn you lots of foul language and some NSFW imagery
Talk on drama and battles among software pirates.

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@pdkl95 Aug 2019 Cites it
on HN thread The Art of Warez [video]
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> ACiD While I never had any talent for drawing (with ANSI or otherwise), I spent most of the time in my high school AP Computer Science class hanging out with Rad Man[1]. We wasted probably half of the school year using the school's BBS computer (286) and modem (2400 baud) to log into various bay area BBS (esp..Code Room). Fun times... (and now I kindof wish I could play Barren Realms Elite) > I also don't remember much of a crossover between the ANSI scene and the demoscene Yah that's right. Jason Scott gave a fun talk[2] about warez/crack intros, which eventually evolved into the demoscene[3]. > the only way to access a BBS was through a terminal emulator If you were feeling adventurous, RIPscrip[4] was a fun alternative. [Unfortunately, my internet connection is currently crapping itself (ADSL bouncing up and down every 30s, massive packet loss), so I'm gong to have to watch this video later.] [1] [link] [2] [this video] [3] I've been really impressed with several recent prods: [link] [link] [link] [4] [link]
Fun talk on warez and crack intros evolving into the demoscene.
@RobGR Mar 2021 Cites it
on HN thread The Art of Warez Documents the Lost ANSI Art Scene (2019)
Reminds me of this presentation by Jason Scott, examples around the 24:00 min mark: [this video] Jason has a similar ( maybe the same ? ) Defcon talk, in which the goons apparently mis-schedule something and he starts in, is told someone else is going to present, and just power-speeds through the whole presentation in 3 minutes while the other presenter gets ready. I can't find that video though.
Jason Scott presentation with relevant examples near 24 minutes.

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